Today on The First 40 Miles, we’re celebrating our 40th episode!! The 40th episode isn’t typically a great achievement or milestone for most podcasts out there, but since our show is the First 40 Miles, then you bet your potatoes our 40th episode is exciting for us! We decided to do something a little crazy and different today, and give you an unedited, raw footage episode of The First 40 Miles. You’ll hear the behind the scenes chatter, the outtakes as they happen, and the odd noises from Subarus and helicopters that get normally edited out.

Show Notes: Episode 040

Top 5 Shocking But True Facts About The First 40 Miles

There was a backpacking trip before the Mt. Hood trip (gasp!)

  • The one-mile trip with car camping gear in Salt Lake City
  • We carried all our car camping stuff up a hill one mile to a meadow next to a lake.
  • Far enough away from the road that we couldn’t hear road noise
  • We encourage our listeners to get out on their first trip, so it’s ok if it’s grabbing your car camping stuff and dragging it up to a remote area. It’s ok if your pack weighs half your body weight, and you have your pots and pans from home. Make it a short hike in, and pat yourself on the back for getting out!

Our “recording studio” has a nickname

  • “The Tent of Sound”
  • And that’s because…we record in Josh’s office and use a fold up mattress to deaden room noise
  • Backpackers are great at repurposing, and making do with what they have

We’re the quiet ones

  • Introverts like to talk when there is something to talk about
  • Horrible at shooting the breeze…a lot better at making plans, talking about big stuff
  • Heather: Coming home from the Mt. Hood hike and not being able to stop talking

During an episode, we cough and clear our throats. A lot.

  • About 50% of the time. A typical unedited episode runs a little under an hour
  • By the time Heather is done editing out all the coughs, repeats, and pauses for airplanes, etc. it’s 20 min-30 min

The image for our podcast was taken by Josh and the hand lettering was done by Heather

  • Not really shocking, but by now you’ve probably figured out that we’re not shocking type people…And we have lots of interests.
  • With backpacking, it can be a hobby–it doesn’t need to be your entire life.

SUMMIT Gear Review™: The First 40 Miles Podcast

Josh shares some awesome reviews from our listeners, Heather blushes


                20-30 minute program


                Useful for entertainment, stories, general backpacking info


                280 pounds…however there is an ultralight version


                Download a new episode every Tuesday




                The show’s alright…  😉 The SUMMIT Gear Review and Backpack Hacks are pretty fun, the You Might Be a Backpacker Jokes are terrible…

Backpack Hack of the Week™: Microwave Beef Jerky (a.k.a. “Burfy”)

1/4 inch slices of beef (with fat trimmed off)

soy sauce (enough to get each piece of meat coated)

liquid smoke (just a dash)

Soak the sliced meat in the soy sauce and liquid smoke for about 5 minutes. Then, lay the sliced beef in a single layer on a microwave safe plate. Microwave for 1 minute then drain off juices. Continue to microwave at 30 second intervals until the meat is dried, but not burnt or brittle.

You Might Be a Backpacker…

  • If you pick a college (or your child’s college) based on proximity to a National Forest…
  • If you’ve ever described something as having that “New Tent Smell”…
  • If you hear the phrase “Pull yourself up by your bootstraps” and you wonder how many grams a bootstrap actually weighs–and if you could cut it off to save a gram…

Trail Wisdom

“I still find each day too short for all the thoughts I want to think, all the walks I want to take, all the books I want to read and all the friends I want to see.”

-John Burroughs